A BOY, 8, involved in the alleged gang-rape of a girl, 3, in Cairns will escape prosecution because he is too young.
The boy, who lives in the same street as the girl, is not legally required to stay away from the victim or undergo counselling because he is not 10 years or older.
An 8 year old involved in pack rape??? Where the hell did a kid this age get the idea of indulging in pack rape - and on a 3 year old girl yet???
Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg has slammed the loophole in the Juvenile Justice Act and called for legislative change.
And, of course, there is the usual political grandstanding from he-who-dodges-legal-prosecution. "Make it the fault of the current government rather than recognising that it is a law that has been around for many, many years AND ignoring the bigger issue here."
For once, this is not the fault of Peter Beattie's incompetence or his merry band of wandering morons.
Sen-Sgt Horan said the young boy is accused of enticing the girl into a bedroom on January 5 and raping her.
He allegedly invited his 11-year-old and 13-year-old friends, who also live in the same street, to do the same, Sen-Sgt Horan said.
So, it was the youngest of the 3 boys who enticed the girl into the room and then invited his friends to do the same? Again: Where the hell did this kid get the idea to do this?
There hasn't been much in the media about how it's OK to rape if you're a practitioner of the Religion-of-the-Confused-Paedophile and it's damn unlikely that the kid came up with the idea on his own - so where did the idea and motive come from?
I will never say that the kid is blameless in all of this but *someone* has obviously allowed or assisted this kid in seeing something that put the idea into his head; whether it be allowing him to see it in a movie (that he shouldn't have seen) or from the internet or whatever. In any case, his parent/s or carer were obviously NOT doing their job.
This is a particularly emotive subject for me as I have a neice that was messed about with for many years by her mother's boyfriend WITH the assistance of the mother. NOTHING was done about it THANKS to the band of halfwits at Family Services in Ipswich in Queensland (their ineptitude is well known to those who are on the wrong end of this sort of treatment). I would have done something about it myself but the family would not tell me where the vermin lived.
What makes it worse is that I met someone recently who has a 3 year old girl and the thought of someone doing something like this to an innocent child makes me want to grab them by the throat and shake them until their teeth rattle and inflict all sorts of pain on them.
OK - I might sound cruel but I've made it pretty clear in other posts that I have no problem with eradicating vermin that are, or will become, a debt to society. *Someone* has to do the job and it sure as hell isn't being made better by aggrandizing politicians, powerless police and politically-correct judiciaries.
The ONLY upside to this is that *hopefully* the girl is young enough that she will not remember the sequence of events.
In the case of the boys involved, I have to admit that it would not be prudent to remove them from the face of the planet just yet due to their respective ages (especially the youngest one), but if there were to be any signs of a recurrence....... The only problem here is that it would probably be too late for yet another young female.
The big hypothetical: remove the child from existence or allow them another chance at life?
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It's a tough choice Jai.
The best predictor of future behaviours is always past behaviours, even in children.
This doesn't mean that people can't or don't change, but contrary to the impression given by all of the squillions of self help books out there, the single most difficult thing for ANY person can try to do in life is to change themselves. It's almost impossible. Which explains why 300 new self help books are published every week - the 300 published last week didn't work.
Changing even one aspect about ourselves takes persistent committment, incredible conscious perseverance, over a very long period of time, and it still may not work, entirely.
So, these little kiddies didn't start off torturing the family cat, they went straight for a 3 year old child.
Wipe them off the face of the earth and make sure their parents aren't able to have any more children.
Harsh, I know, but the alternatives?
Eradicate the potential trouble for society and sanitize the parents? Sounds promising.
The trouble with this is that I had good parents that tried their best (while making a lot of mistakes) and all 4 of us boys managed to get into a HEAP of trouble (still do). Not necessarily the fault of my parents though....
But then... I never tortured a 3-year-old either - nor a cat (maybe some other animals for which I am ashamed to have done). OK - did torture some kids but not to the point of rape (some assaults though....)
This is what I think of when I wonder if it's a good thing to remove someone from the face of the planet as I managed to turn myself around, so it is possible.
Jai - I know the world is made up of a million shades of grey, for the most part, but sometimes things are black and white.
My Mum had six of us and we have caused her no end of grief, still do at times, but no fault of hers. None of us have ever been in jail though, and I don't mean just by luck of having never been caught! :-)
Doesn't every child and every teenager and every young adult, and every middle aged person do some dumb stuff, make bad decisions, behave like an idiot? (Even if they deny it.) There's a world of difference between the normal course of growing and learning and adapting to life, and being on a more menacing and threating path.
Besides, there'd barely be anyone left if we eradicated on the basis of the normal bounds of dumb stuff!
There is a line though, and across that line, ah well, our society deals rather poorly and in a remarkably conciliatory and forgiving manner to those that cross the line.
I suppose the questions that need to be answered are again, what was the parent's role in all of this.
What is the background of the children involved, and how many come from broken homes?
I remember with the James Bulger case, there was no end of outpouring of rage at the perpetrators, and for their own safety they had to be sequestered away.
There was a book The Sleep of Reason which covered that case. It was written at the same time the cases were going ahead, but not published until afterwards, and it provided sympathetic views of the killers. It's well worth a read.
One thing it pointed out was that violence by children is far from unknown and undocumented. Sure, it's aberrant, but still more common than we like to think.
In this case, there would have to be something in the backgrounds of the boys involved whereby violence of a sexual nature is something acceptable.
How do you combat the atmosphere yo breathe?
One more question... was the 8year old really the ringleader, or was he handy for that role due to his age?
The parent/s role in this is something in my mind because it seems easy to blame the parents all the time when something like this happens. Sometimes the parent/s may be doing the best job they can to raise the child but the child will still run off the rails.
I know my parents made some mistakes but they still tried to raise me right. It was the being hauled/swung around the back room of the cop shop in Toowoomba by my ears that made me wonder if the being caught was enough to outweigh the 'fun' factor.
It was.
A child, even at the age of 8, can make a choice about what is right and what is wrong - and sexual assault involving luring a 3yo girl into a room takes premeditation and time. It's not like hauling off and smacking someone up the head with an iron bar on the spur of the moment.
Nilknarf is right as well with regards to broken homes. When you grow up with infidelity, perversion, ignorance and violence: it can seem like pretty normal behaviour to someone who doesn't know anything else.
Just one small problem with the broken home red-flag: the overwhelming majority of children growing up without both parents in the home do not become criminals, or sociopaths, or whatever.
Similarly, the vast majority of people from horribly damaged backgrounds, whether it be war, famine, abuse, and so on, grow up to be valuable and fine members of society.
And lets not forget just how overwhelming and vile - unspeakable - are so many things that individuals have endured in their lives, and YET they live with their personal damage, carry it with them, and still conduct their lives with amazing integrity and humanity.
When I say "majority" I mean MOST, as in, 90% or 95% - probably more.
People do make choices, they do make decisions, they do actively take a path, knowing full well were it leads. There is also quite a large chunk of "nature" in there as well; nuture is never the only contributing factor. I do believe that some individuals, no matter their upbringing, have a propensity for doing wrong. (How else do you explain rich kids murdering their parents, or siblings, for example? Just an abberation, just misguided greed? I don't buy it.)
Besides, my Mum raised six of us as a single parent, I raised my baby as a single parent, so I get a bit pissed with continual single parent-bashing, as if that's the root of all evil in society - it's NOT. One good parent is always infinitely better than two bad parents. Seriously. Being raised by a single parent just isn't the worst thing that could ever happen to a person, it doesn't even come close to the worst things that can happen in life.
A person who is a neglectful single parent is almost certainly the same person who would be a neglectful or unloving or "bad" parent even with the other parent around. People don't sudddenly turn into bad parents just because they have divorce papers in their legal folder. (The majority of single parent households are the result of divorce.) Again - seriously.
No argument from me on any of those points.
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